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In keeping with Van Dieman Land and the recent binding UN resolution of that nations own initiative.....

I hereby, under the enacted proposal, specifically "All UN nations may voluntarily list sites of environmental significance both internally and globally."

I list as a "site of environmental significance, both internally and globally",
the ENTIRE nation of Van Dieman Land, and all industry MUST halt in aforesaid region for the protection of the Van Dieman salamander and the rare Van Dieman pine.

This is in accord with the resolution initiated by Van Dieman Land and as stated in the adopted UN resolution:

"Recognising that sites of pristine environmental significance should be protected for all people; and

Recognising that a lack of environmental protection protocols currently exists:

It is proposed that a World Heritage List be established. All UN nations may voluntarily list sites of environmental significance both internally and globally. Listed sites would be protected from logging, mining and other environmentally-damaging activities."

It is clear that ANY building of ANY sort will damage the habitat of the Van Dieman salamander and the cutting of ANY Van Dieman pines will be a transgression of the UN resolution. Therefore, due to Van Dieman bringing this resolution to the UN, it MUST, by its OWN directive, remain in the Stone Age because "Listed sites would be protected from...other environmentally-damaging activities" And digging holes in the ground would "damage" the "environment" of the rare Van Dieman salamander.

Van Dieman Land, by their own initiative, have made their nation empty of any and all industry, as that would violate the UN mandate THEY THEMSELVES put forward. Additionally, Van Dieman Land, according to the laws THEY proposed, must cease the following activities, as they violate the "environmentally-damaging activities":
- dams: they interrupt the salmon from going upstream to breed
- any fossil fuel vehicles (cars/trucks) as they pollute the atmosphere
- any building projects, as they disturb the Van Dieman salamander
- Van Dieman Land may not burn coal; excess carbons in the air
- Van Dieman Land may not burn wood; excess carbons in the air
- Van Dieman Land may not use nuclear power; possible contamination
- Van Dieman Land may not bury garbage in landfills; salamander damage


maybe NOW those who voted 'yes' will see the ramifications of just what they voted for; everything I mentioned is according to the resolution THEY voted for!!

as everyone feared, it has begun

This is why I'm not part of the UN. It does more harm then good.

i beleve it is to show the mistake of the people who voted yes

And this will have what effect exactly? This is just a game, remember.

His Most Enlightened One is somewhat puzzled at what the point of the OP is. As far as he can tell, all Zoltansk has proven is that it's incredibly stupid to list one's entire nation as an area of enviromental importance, not to mention unbelivably egotistical. He believes that Zoltansk has taken the enacted proposal far too literally. For instance, in His nation, the Most Serene Republic of the Arctic Banana, while certainly holding the enviroment of the entire nation as a large issue, He has declared the lush forests of Arsenic Popcorn as an area of "enviromental significance" due to it's large population of the rare farting pigeon. These pristine forests are located just north of the capital of Arctic Banana, Myopia.

Note that he has not declared the entire nation as an area of "enviromental signifcance" but rather just certain areas that are truly just that. Perhaps Van Dieman Land would perfer to reconsider it's decision.

- Voice of His Most Enlightened One

:idea: As my last action as a UN member, I declair the entire world (except for Texastambul) 'protected' by the World Heritage List...

I hate this resolution, I voted against it, but now after it being passed all my mining areas have been declared areas of "enviromental signifigance". This completely destroyed my uramium mining industry which was one of my strongest. I'm a little new here but if this keeps up (speaking specifically of the equality for all resolution), I'm leaving the U.N.

And this will have what effect exactly? This is just a game, remember.

As I am still quite new to the game, could someone tell me how/where one lists local and global sites of environmental significance?

i beleve it is to show the mistake of the people who voted yes

that was exactly my point :)

it seems lately far too many poorly worded & awkwardly phrased Resolutions are being brought forward, without people seriously reading and considering 'what' is being presented

Perhaps we are just discussing the 50 year old question of renewable energy. Concider this:
http://www.osearth.com/resources/worldometers/worldfuel.shtml

The reason we are still using polluting fossil fuels is because large corporations have enough influence to keep the status quo. There is no scientific reason why we shouldnt be able to phase out polluting enery sources and therefore sustain healthy economies worldwide at the fraction of current costs.

There aren't any profitable alternatives to fossil fuels right now. When we had an energy crisis with coal in the early 1900s, everyone including large corporations switched to oil. In fact, large corporations like Rockefeller's Standard Oil made teh switch easier.

And we never did run out of coal.

When alternative energies become profitable, people will use them.

In keeping with Van Dieman Land and the recent binding UN resolution of that nations own initiative.....

I hereby, under the enacted proposal, specifically "All UN nations may voluntarily list sites of environmental significance both internally and globally."

I list as a "site of environmental significance, both internally and globally",
the ENTIRE nation of Van Dieman Land, and all industry MUST halt in aforesaid region for the protection of the Van Dieman salamander and the rare Van Dieman pine.

This is in accord with the resolution initiated by Van Dieman Land and as stated in the adopted UN resolution:

"Recognising that sites of pristine environmental significance should be protected for all people; and

Recognising that a lack of environmental protection protocols currently exists:

It is proposed that a World Heritage List be established. All UN nations may voluntarily list sites of environmental significance both internally and globally. Listed sites would be protected from logging, mining and other environmentally-damaging activities."

It is clear that ANY building of ANY sort will damage the habitat of the Van Dieman salamander and the cutting of ANY Van Dieman pines will be a transgression of the UN resolution. Therefore, due to Van Dieman bringing this resolution to the UN, it MUST, by its OWN directive, remain in the Stone Age because "Listed sites would be protected from...other environmentally-damaging activities" And digging holes in the ground would "damage" the "environment" of the rare Van Dieman salamander.

Van Dieman Land, by their own initiative, have made their nation empty of any and all industry, as that would violate the UN mandate THEY THEMSELVES put forward. Additionally, Van Dieman Land, according to the laws THEY proposed, must cease the following activities, as they violate the "environmentally-damaging activities":
- dams: they interrupt the salmon from going upstream to breed
- any fossil fuel vehicles (cars/trucks) as they pollute the atmosphere
- any building projects, as they disturb the Van Dieman salamander
- Van Dieman Land may not burn coal; excess carbons in the air
- Van Dieman Land may not burn wood; excess carbons in the air
- Van Dieman Land may not use nuclear power; possible contamination
- Van Dieman Land may not bury garbage in landfills; salamander damage


maybe NOW those who voted 'yes' will see the ramifications of just what they voted for; everything I mentioned is according to the resolution THEY voted for!!

I hereby declare every environmentalist UN nation to be a "World Heritage Site". Now maybe we can get back to debating.

In keeping with Van Dieman Land and the recent binding UN resolution of that nations own initiative.....

I hereby, under the enacted proposal, specifically "All UN nations may voluntarily list sites of environmental significance both internally and globally."

I list as a "site of environmental significance, both internally and globally",
the ENTIRE nation of Van Dieman Land, and all industry MUST halt in aforesaid region for the protection of the Van Dieman salamander and the rare Van Dieman pine.

This is in accord with the resolution initiated by Van Dieman Land and as stated in the adopted UN resolution:

"Recognising that sites of pristine environmental significance should be protected for all people; and

Recognising that a lack of environmental protection protocols currently exists:

It is proposed that a World Heritage List be established. All UN nations may voluntarily list sites of environmental significance both internally and globally. Listed sites would be protected from logging, mining and other environmentally-damaging activities."

It is clear that ANY building of ANY sort will damage the habitat of the Van Dieman salamander and the cutting of ANY Van Dieman pines will be a transgression of the UN resolution. Therefore, due to Van Dieman bringing this resolution to the UN, it MUST, by its OWN directive, remain in the Stone Age because "Listed sites would be protected from...other environmentally-damaging activities" And digging holes in the ground would "damage" the "environment" of the rare Van Dieman salamander.

Van Dieman Land, by their own initiative, have made their nation empty of any and all industry, as that would violate the UN mandate THEY THEMSELVES put forward. Additionally, Van Dieman Land, according to the laws THEY proposed, must cease the following activities, as they violate the "environmentally-damaging activities":
- dams: they interrupt the salmon from going upstream to breed
- any fossil fuel vehicles (cars/trucks) as they pollute the atmosphere
- any building projects, as they disturb the Van Dieman salamander
- Van Dieman Land may not burn coal; excess carbons in the air
- Van Dieman Land may not burn wood; excess carbons in the air
- Van Dieman Land may not use nuclear power; possible contamination
- Van Dieman Land may not bury garbage in landfills; salamander damage


maybe NOW those who voted 'yes' will see the ramifications of just what they voted for; everything I mentioned is according to the resolution THEY voted for!!

I hereby declare every environmentalist UN nation to be a "World Heritage Site". Now maybe we can get back to debating.
Not every enviromentalist supported it, my nation is enviromentalist, however we voted against it realizing it was poorly worded and destructive. Rephrase that to all areas within the boarders of nations that voted for the purposal, and all will be well.

We're happy with that, though you'll find that all of the above mentioned policies are already in place. We're enjoying our environment, and hope that you are too.

;-)

Cheers.

P.S. Send us some wood..... oh, I forgot.... your woodchipping industry is stuffed!!

We thankyou for listing our nation but regret that we had already done so.... oh well, the sentiment was there.

We pride ourselves on a good track record environmentally, and the fact that a majority of UN members endorsed this stance is a matter of national pride.

No hard feelings...

P.S. We have listed your entire nation - including all industry and military facilities as World Heritage Sites. It seems that the endangered Zoltansk bandicoot (Peremeles zoltanska) is scattered across your nation and any development or movement of vehicles will destroy its habitat... enjoy!!

Seeing as how I'm not the only one who is displeased with the world heritage list, I have submitted a proposal to repeal it. Please show your support for all of our nations and the harm this measure could bring. APPROVE THE REPEAL ON THE WORLD HERITAGE LIST!

"All UN nations may voluntarily list sites of environmental significance both internally and globally. Listed sites would be protected from logging, mining and other environmentally-damaging activities."

The term "All UN nations" can be interpreted as meaning the UN as a whole. So this would mean if you don't agree with somebodies listing, then you don't have to acknowledge it.

It's almost like you all never took an english class. :roll:

His Most Enlightened One would also like to point out two key words of the passed proposal:

1) "voluntary," which means you don't have to declare anywhere, and He means ANYWHERE as an enviromentally significant area of your nation. Go ahead and develop wherever you choose to. Nothing's stopping you.

2) "significance"....the great peoples of The Arctic Banana have chosen to develop in areas that will not greatly impact the enviroment, and have also managed to negate any ill effects towards the surroundsing forests through use of primarilly bio-degradable products. Clearly, we have prioritized certain areas over others, protected those which need or should be protected while carefully developing other areas so to minimize impact on the ecosystem. In such a way is both Nature and Humanity able to co-exist peacefully.

- Hand of His Most Enlightened One