NationStates Jolt Archive


Two questions about UN

06-01-2003, 11:48
As a non-member of the UN this representative of Westrogoticae have a few questions that he would like to have answered so that a discussion whether or not to join UN can occur:

1. If a nation becomes a member of the UN tomorrow, is it forced to accept all the resolutions made by the UN yesterday?

2. Is there a complete list of resolutions made by the UN for the non-member to scrutinize?

Best regards
Laphroaig McLapdog
Foreign minister, Westrogoticae
Thomasia
07-01-2003, 10:23
All resolutions passed by the UN are immediately implemented upon the membership at the moment they pass, so resolutions which occured before your entry do not affect your nation.

Within the UN, there is a list of passed resolutions to view.

I would advise you against joining the UN, as many of their issues intrude unduly upon national sovereignty, but the decision is ultimately your own.

Cordially,
Emperor Thomas I
07-01-2003, 10:53
We thank you, Emperor Thomas I, for clarifying in these matters.

We are somewhat disappointed though. We had hoped that the earlier resolutions of the UN would be public. That the UN had nothing to hide from the rest uf the nations.

Very well, discussions can begin!

Best regards
Laphroaig McLapdog
Foreign Minister, Westrogoticae
Thomasia
07-01-2003, 11:41
I apologize if I was not clear on the second point. Non-UN members may view a list of passed UN resolutions on the "United Nations" page without having to join themselves (these being titled, "Fight the Axis of Evil", "Scientific Freedom", and "Expedition of Resolution").

I'm happy to help.

Cordially,
Emperor Thomas I
07-01-2003, 14:41
So only 3 resolutions have passed in the entire history of the UN? Just how long is the UN history anyways?

I assume that most of the other resolutions werent passed because of the UN 'overstepping its bounds'? How many have their been?
07-01-2003, 15:08
And that silly little Axis of Evil resolution passed 2 votes to 1, tehehe, howd that one sneak past everyone else?!
07-01-2003, 15:43
Finally all is clear! We again sends our gratitude to Emperor Thomas I for his patience in this matter. Internal discussions will continue with more facts added.

Best regards
Laphroaig McLapdog
Foreign Minister, Westrogoticae
07-01-2003, 16:08
Ahh, there you are Laphroaig!! You are to return home to Westrogoticae immediately! Visiting-hours are over!

The Controlling Authority
Athine
11-09-2003, 15:31
All resolutions passed by the UN are immediately implemented upon the membership at the moment they pass, so resolutions which occured before your entry do not affect your nation.

Within the UN, there is a list of passed resolutions to view.

I would advise you against joining the UN, as many of their issues intrude unduly upon national sovereignty, but the decision is ultimately your own.

Cordially,
Emperor Thomas I

So what happens if I resign and immediately rejoin?
Does that make all resolutions null and void as far as my nation is concerned?
Ballotonia
11-09-2003, 15:57
So what happens if I resign and immediately rejoin?
Does that make all resolutions null and void as far as my nation is concerned?

There's two different things at play here: RP and nation statistics.

For nation statistics purposes, your nation is influenced at the moment a resolution is passed. If at that moment your nation is a UN member, your statistics get influenced. So, you could drop out of the UN before a resolution passes and join back up after it has taken effect, and your nation's statistics would remain unaffected in the process.

This is not the way it's generally RP'd though. You can make any RP-agreement with whomever you RP, but the general approach I've seen is that being a member of the UN means all the UN resolutions ever passed are considered 'in effect' in your nation. others completely ignore the UN for RP purposes.

Some prefer to have their 'main nation' not be a UN member at all, while using a minor puppet nation to run around as UN member and give the player the benefits of UN membership (like possibly access to regional controls in some region).

Ballotonia